So yesterday I wrote about Asian American women preferring White American women over Black American women, and I gave some theories to why this could be. I decided to do a bit more research and see what I could find. When people said that environment plays a role, I think this is absolutely true. Upon me doing research, apparently it’s common for Asian women to get into relationships with black women in places like New York: Queens, Brooklyn, New York City to name a few.
This video right above is actually a local non profit in New York that represents art by queer women, non-binary people of color. This particular group has been mentioned on Vice and other media outlets. The group mostly consist of black and Asian women.
There is a lesbian website which is pretty much a community forum that is secretive and hard to find. I won’t link to the site because I don’t want to overwhelm it nor do I want it to get the wrong attention. However, I will post images of conversations that were had on there in 2012 about Asian women dating black women.
Upon clicking on the image, you can see the conversations where sign ins mention location as a big factor. There is also a mention from an Asian woman who doesn’t find black women attractive due to facial features. I’m assuming the facial features she thinks of are big lips, big eyes, big nose; in other words, racial stereotypes associated with black women.
Below is a most recent response to that same thread since that thread is pretty long.
I decided to go back on Reddit and check out that thread that I went to yesterday. A couple of people pointed out location again and mentioned South California as being diverse there. A few Asian women even mention dating black women as well.
And another one said:
As an Asian American in the U.S., I’ve noticed that it’s less common. I live in a fairly large and diverse city. However, from my personal experience – many asians I know look down upon dating people of darker skin. That’s what it is currently, that’s how they view it. Even with straight Asians I know, many look down upon it. Those who would be open to it, are afraid of being judged by their peers or embarrassing their parents/family (which is still a big thing).
Many of those people were not born in the U.S. However, many of their kids my age were taught the same. But I do know quite a few asians my age who have dated people of darker skin, myself included. I’ve dated girls of all races, but we’re not common. Another observation I’ve had is that most of the younger asians I’ve seen date them are women.
So let’s talk racism in the lesbian community. People like to talk about racism in the gay community and racism in the lgbt, queer community but no one has mentioned racism in the lesbian community, in the women who love women community. And if it is brought up, trans women usually ruin the conversation by making it about trans issues.
During the Chicago Dyke march, two Jewish women were told to leave because of their Star of David flags. It is often quite common in the lesbian BDSM scene for their to be racism when white women will often role play as Nazi/Jews. There is one book in particular that brought this issue up called Herself When She’s Missing. The main protagonist of the book was madly in love with a woman who was racist towards blacks and Jews.
The movie Carol which is based off the book, The Price of Salt, the woman who wrote that book, Patricia Highsmith was racist. She had a strong disdained for black people, and the only reason why she dealt with Asians was because one of her male friends was in a relationship with a Filipino. But of course the white lesbian community doesn’t talk about that. They would rather ignore this and separate the “art from the artist”. There is no such thing. If you support a person’s source of income then you support them. So if you watch and buy Roman Polanski’s movie then you’re supporting a dude who fucked a 13 year old up the ass. Just saying.
Then there’s racial preference which I also talked about in my previous article where I mentioned racial preference being a prejudice trait, and not so much racist.
I understand racial preferences yet racial preferences is a preference to a racial trait or characteristic of a group, which is valued more than that of another racial group. I wouldn’t call it racist. But I would call it racial and color hierarchy. This is a hierarchy pushed in many Asian cultures(including my own), and I believe this same mentality is also taught some what to Asian Americans in the states. Thank you once again.
The girl who wrote that thread on the Actual Lesbians sub reddit said this very elegantly. She’s right and I agree with it. She said it better than I. When someone has a racial preference, it absolutely means they value the characteristics of that race more than another race. These racial preferences in the lesbian community sometimes go so deep that it does borderline on racism. But the white lesbian community don’t want to see it that way. They want to view themselves as liberal and open minded. When in fact, it would seem many white liberals are more racist than actual racist.
Remember in The L Word, Tina was upset the sperm donor was black and Bette didn’t understand why because Bette is half black? Yeah, Tina was being racist and didn’t even know it.
Remember the white lesbian couple who sued a sperm bank for giving them the wrong donor, and they’re pissed that they have a black baby? They say it’s not about race-okay, so then why you tripping? Why are you having panic attacks? Is it because you realized how tough it can be to be black and you wouldn’t wish that on your own worst enemy? Is that it? Sounds like it. But the baby is a product and they paid for a white product.
So yes, there is absolutely racism and a social, racial hierarchy in the lesbian community; and white queer women tend to over look it or simply not care about it. Denial!